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in syria there are so many more competing factions for power, that i think a regime change in syria, we might be in for a whole different category of problems. to say that the united states should just walk in there and designate a new leader or do whatever it takes, i mean, that itself is a little naive and easy to say when you're not sitting in the chair. >> thank you very much. coming up, i talk with congressman bill pascral who wroelt a letter to make an urgent request about the alternative minimum task. he said failure to increase federal taxes for half of the people in his state. plus, treasury secretary tim geithner says the obama administration is, quote, absolutely ready to go over the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the rich. do you support that decision? it is our gut check. first, in today's money minute, here's a look at the markets. ♪ ♪ mom? dad? guys? [ engine turns over ] [ engine revs ] ♪ he'll be fine. [ male announcer ] more people are leaving bmw, mercedes and lexus for audi than ever before. take advantage of exceptional values during the seas
in syria there are so many more competing factions for power, that i think a regime change in syria, we might be in for a whole different category of problems. to say that the united states should just walk in there and designate a new leader or do whatever it takes, i mean, that itself is a little naive and easy to say when you're not sitting in the chair. >> thank you very much. coming up, i talk with congressman bill pascral who wroelt a letter to make an urgent request about the...
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>> well, the focus is now on syria. events on the ground are changing. if these published reports are to be believed and there's some efforts to move chemical weapons i believe as hillary clinton has hinted, that will bring the entire international community into this game. that includes russia, which has been on the sidelines actually arming the syrian government until now, but hopefully russia, no one wants to see syria use, again it was reported in 1982 that hall fa al assad used chemical weapons on his people. our government again is reported to be moving to recognize this more unified opposition. the fact that it exists is partially a credit to secretary of state clinton, but also to egypt and other neighbors who have pushed for this to happen. its headquarters is currently in cairo, by the way. and so if this happens and if the international community focuses i think there is finally a chance of a -- not just a way for the end of this -- the assad regime to be achieved, but for a responsible government to move into its place. >> and now let me ask
>> well, the focus is now on syria. events on the ground are changing. if these published reports are to be believed and there's some efforts to move chemical weapons i believe as hillary clinton has hinted, that will bring the entire international community into this game. that includes russia, which has been on the sidelines actually arming the syrian government until now, but hopefully russia, no one wants to see syria use, again it was reported in 1982 that hall fa al assad used...
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is part of a nato effort to help shield turkey from chemical weapons or missile attacks coming from syria. >>> as always, let us know why you're awake. shoot us an e-mail at waytooearly@msnbc.com. >>> still ahead on "way too early" -- ♪ i made it out of clay ♪ when it's dry and ready ♪ then dreidel i shall >> that would be so much better if we didn't know that was jeremy lin and the houston rockets. the toughest competition, the classic hanukkah dreidel song. >>> also, highlights from the football game last night. that was miss what are the eagles doing? >>> and not happy with the way the politicians are handling the fiscal cliff? wait until you see how the ukraine parliament settles their disputes. all of that when "way too early" comes back. [ female announcer ] born from the naturally sweet monk fruit, something this delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker of splenda sweeteners, discover nectresse. the only 100% natural, no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of fruit. the rich, sweet taste of sugar. nothing artificial. ♪ it's all that sweet ever needs to
is part of a nato effort to help shield turkey from chemical weapons or missile attacks coming from syria. >>> as always, let us know why you're awake. shoot us an e-mail at waytooearly@msnbc.com. >>> still ahead on "way too early" -- ♪ i made it out of clay ♪ when it's dry and ready ♪ then dreidel i shall >> that would be so much better if we didn't know that was jeremy lin and the houston rockets. the toughest competition, the classic hanukkah dreidel...
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hillary clinton issues a new issue to syria not to use chemical weapons. are they worried about something? >>> and rocking the white house, why the president is mixing it up with led zeppelin. first today's trivia question, how many sitting senators have served continuously since they were first elected? with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. l
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. >>> now to the crisis in syria. new reports that the white house and its allies are weighing military options to secure syria's chemical and biological weapons. president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton both issued warnings to syria monday after intelligence picked up signs the assad regime might be making preparations of some kind with its large stockpile of chemical weapons. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> meanwhile, "the new york times" reports russia appears to be weakening in its steadfast support for president assad. the senior turkish official says moscow agreed to a new approach that would seek ways to persuade assad to relinquish power. >>> kate middleton remains in a london hospital today as the world learns she is expecting. there is a sign o
. >>> now to the crisis in syria. new reports that the white house and its allies are weighing military options to secure syria's chemical and biological weapons. president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton both issued warnings to syria monday after intelligence picked up signs the assad regime might be making preparations of some kind with its large stockpile of chemical weapons. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command the world is...
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syria bomb rebels today. secretary clinton says that country is considering using chemical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence. >> joining me now is former state department egypt officer joel reuben. good to have you here. let's start with that red line where syria is right now. it's estimated more than 40,000 people have been killed in this 20-month-old revolve against the government. these new reports suggesting the fresh activity at syrian chemical weapons depots. earlier this year the president singled out that threat posed by chemical weapons as a cause for greater u.s. involvement. now secretary clinton giving this warning. where do you see this headed? >> this is a very overt declaration by the secretary. it's been estimated it would take about 75,000 troops to secure these chemical weapon sites if they are used. syria has never acknowledged having them but acknowledged that when responding
syria bomb rebels today. secretary clinton says that country is considering using chemical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we would do in the event of credible evidence. >> joining me now is former state department egypt officer joel reuben. good to have you here. let's start with that red line where syria is right now. it's estimated more than 40,000 people have been killed in this 20-month-old revolve against...
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except for syria. syria, they were fine with it, because russia was their best friend. and this best friendship has survived the cold war. russia and syria have had a sort of de facto exchange program over the last few decades. syrian military officers go to russia to study. and then they return to syria with their education and with russian wives. there are a lot of russian women who are married to syrian men who are living in syria. the two countries have had their share of disagreements over the years, but honestly, they have stuck together. at times when syria has not had a friend in the whole world they have had russia. and vice versa. this is a scud missile. scud missiles are of russian design. they're basically entry-level ballistic missiles, in the words of a bbc story about them today. ballistic missiles 101, if you will. scuds are not that accurate, but they are easy to move around. they're not that big. they're not that complicated. you can put all sorts of different warheads on them. eke. and as ballistic missiles go, skud scud missiles are fairly ubiquitous
except for syria. syria, they were fine with it, because russia was their best friend. and this best friendship has survived the cold war. russia and syria have had a sort of de facto exchange program over the last few decades. syrian military officers go to russia to study. and then they return to syria with their education and with russian wives. there are a lot of russian women who are married to syrian men who are living in syria. the two countries have had their share of disagreements over...
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is sending patriot air defense missiles and 400 troops to syria. the goal clearly is to show that they're going to make a commitment to deter a syrian attack. >> i think so and hope so. i can understand what why turkey would be very concerned and we have seen indications that syria has prepared in some respects these chemical weapons that is deeply disturbing and we have also seen that the mean sheen guns would be fired against the syrian people themselves, so if you have a government that's going to file -- chemical weapons and and as a neighboring -- regime you got to think, if they're willing to take the steps against their own people. i think it was a prudent step to take and i hope that she knows that any step it takes, it's chemical weapons against their own people or others would be met with a severest of consequences. do you believe his role is almost over? >> well, he's certainly lost control, but this week, we're only stating the obvious. but they can't help but see the deterioration in the position of the assad they're having to resort t
is sending patriot air defense missiles and 400 troops to syria. the goal clearly is to show that they're going to make a commitment to deter a syrian attack. >> i think so and hope so. i can understand what why turkey would be very concerned and we have seen indications that syria has prepared in some respects these chemical weapons that is deeply disturbing and we have also seen that the mean sheen guns would be fired against the syrian people themselves, so if you have a government...
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. >>> president obama issues a stern warning to syria. he says if the country's president deploys them they would be held accountable. the flu has started early and the strain causing severe symptoms. cases have jumped to five southern states. prince william and his wife kate are expecting a baby. >>> we're back. hillary clinton is running for president. those are the words of "new yorker" editor david remnick this week after he attended the saban forum. he writes of a tribute video in which american and world leaders display their love for the secretary of state and leave the door open for her future plans. i'd say wide open. here it is. >> someone who knows a thing or two about political comebacks. i can tell you i don't think we've heard the last of hillary clinton. ♪ because girl you're amazing just the way you are ♪ >> i just have an instinct that the best is yet to come. >> well, it was quite a tribute. i watched it this afternoon. he goes on to say there was much chatter about what clinton would do after she steps down from the
. >>> president obama issues a stern warning to syria. he says if the country's president deploys them they would be held accountable. the flu has started early and the strain causing severe symptoms. cases have jumped to five southern states. prince william and his wife kate are expecting a baby. >>> we're back. hillary clinton is running for president. those are the words of "new yorker" editor david remnick this week after he attended the saban forum. he writes of...
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on the way there, the pentagon chief talked about syria. >> at this point, the intelligence has really kind of leveled off. we haven't seen anything new indicating, you know, any aggressive steps to move forward in that way. i'd like to believe he's got the message. we've made it pretty clear and others have, as well. >> in related news, aerkt of state hillary clinton had to cancel her trip commreepletely morocco. she has a stomach virus and a deputy will join the meeting in her place. >>> meanwhile, talks about a potential clinton 2016 bid for president they will not die down until she announces she's running or not running. new york governor andy cuomo was asked what he thought about clinton running for president. here's what he said. >> a long way away. we just elected a president and they want to talk about the next election. no doubt that she is incredibly popular. she has great experience and there is going to be all sorts of speculation about her political future and she is the person that is going to make the decision. >> by the way, perfect reasonably response. what i was stun
on the way there, the pentagon chief talked about syria. >> at this point, the intelligence has really kind of leveled off. we haven't seen anything new indicating, you know, any aggressive steps to move forward in that way. i'd like to believe he's got the message. we've made it pretty clear and others have, as well. >> in related news, aerkt of state hillary clinton had to cancel her trip commreepletely morocco. she has a stomach virus and a deputy will join the meeting in her...
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we're seeing it now especially in syria. but now becoming more powerful force than nato. this is happening. you foresaw it. why is it happening? >> it's happening because the situation is such that we realize we need turkey and it is the point of departure for any effective, constructive or destructive solution. it's as basic as that. but we have to be aware of the fact we can't let turkey out on a limb by itself. extremely successful but vulnerable from the inside. and i can see enemies of turkey ganging up on turkey, stimulating the kurd ishii you, for example, which could be explosive and damaging to turkey's long-range future. >> and you also have a much more complicated relationship between turkey and israel now. >> yes. >> which i would assume would hold us back a little bit from being completely -- >> they can't because it turkey is too important. it involves several turks. we will not apologize. that's kind of unfortunate. that could have been fussed over, i think. it's too bad. >>> before we go to break, i do want to get to the charts we talked about at the top o
we're seeing it now especially in syria. but now becoming more powerful force than nato. this is happening. you foresaw it. why is it happening? >> it's happening because the situation is such that we realize we need turkey and it is the point of departure for any effective, constructive or destructive solution. it's as basic as that. but we have to be aware of the fact we can't let turkey out on a limb by itself. extremely successful but vulnerable from the inside. and i can see enemies...
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what is maybe happening in syria is one of those things that crosses the line. you can tell by the president and the american secretary of state talked about it today and threatened that the u.s. is going to act in response. i do not know exactly what that means and neither do you, but we're probably not talking about a sternly-worded letter. we're talking about the nerve agents. we're talking about mustard gas. do you remember the doomsday cult back in the mid-'90s that killed 13 people and seriously injured 50 people and temporarily blinded a thousand people? imagine that but with weapons grade disseminated by missile. associated press says that syria is believed to have several hundred ballistic surface to surface missiles capable of carrying chemical war heads plus several tons of weapons stored in large drums or in artillery shells. the cause for all the concern right now including the statements from president obama and secretary clinton is the reports from this weekend. reports from this weekend quoting intelligence sources saying there was "heightened ac
what is maybe happening in syria is one of those things that crosses the line. you can tell by the president and the american secretary of state talked about it today and threatened that the u.s. is going to act in response. i do not know exactly what that means and neither do you, but we're probably not talking about a sternly-worded letter. we're talking about the nerve agents. we're talking about mustard gas. do you remember the doomsday cult back in the mid-'90s that killed 13 people and...
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i think that solving syria, moving syria into a different place changes the game for all the other great powers with iran. >> i would love -- i'm out of time. i would love to get going with morsi. david sanger with egypt and morsi, is this going to be a situation, does he back off of this a little bit because there's such an uprising? >> yeah, you'd think so but so far his public signals have been doubling down on passing the constitution that would give him these big powers. i can't imagine that's a particularly sustainable position after he saw what happened to mubarak. >> right, he wouldn't be there. >> steve, what is the role of the united states in trying to push morrissey on this? >> i think a $4.9 billion imf package. and a very narrow window morsi has to influence the economic v vector for the country. and if he doesn't figure out a way to work with other parts of the egyptian political establishment that money is going to disappear. it's all financial leverage. >>> next the bizarre head scratching move from the romney campaign. plus, the showdown of 2012 is upon us. we'll tell y
i think that solving syria, moving syria into a different place changes the game for all the other great powers with iran. >> i would love -- i'm out of time. i would love to get going with morsi. david sanger with egypt and morsi, is this going to be a situation, does he back off of this a little bit because there's such an uprising? >> yeah, you'd think so but so far his public signals have been doubling down on passing the constitution that would give him these big powers. i...
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and russian senior diplomats will meet today with the united nations peace envoy for syria in an attempt to end the civil war there. this comes as pentagon sources tell nbc news there is intelligence suggesting the syrian government has loaded sarin gas into aerial bombs and awaiting command from president assad for its use. >>> and from our parade of papers, "the san francisco chronicle," american jazz legend dave brubeck died just short of his 92nd birthday. he redefined american jazz in the 1950s and '60s, and he was a jazz pop star of sorts. "take five" became the first jazz recording to sell over a million copies. it made jazz popular in the united states. dave brubeck dying yesterday. >> a great musician. >> little-known fact, the guy that played stand-up bass for him the last ten years, mike allen. >> is that right? >> nobody knew that. allen. yes, he plays it and spins that thing around. >> oh, i love when he does that, slaps the back of it. >> he also, for a year and a half, when the stray cats went over to london. >> mike ailen? >> stand-up bassist for the stray cats. >> the bo
and russian senior diplomats will meet today with the united nations peace envoy for syria in an attempt to end the civil war there. this comes as pentagon sources tell nbc news there is intelligence suggesting the syrian government has loaded sarin gas into aerial bombs and awaiting command from president assad for its use. >>> and from our parade of papers, "the san francisco chronicle," american jazz legend dave brubeck died just short of his 92nd birthday. he redefined...
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, where the syria military is now firing scud missiles at rebel forces in the north, almost thumbing its nose a little bit at the world community here. jim joins me now. it's as if essentially they've seen the line the world is drawing when it comes to chemical weapons and feel they can do almost anything else. >> u.s. officials said this is a clear sign the assad regime in damascus is becoming ever more desperate. this is the first time in a two-year war that the syrian military has used these scud missiles against the rebels. they fired six to eight of them into the north, presumably at rebel strongholds. at least two of them, there are reports, fell in neighborhoods. there are other signs that would make it appear anyway that the assad regime is in its final days. even the russians are saying publicly that they're growing more pessimistic that they could actually survive. and if they're saying that publicly, the russians have to be putting that into assad's ear. now, let's flip that on its head. u.s. intelligence today indicates that assad instead of looking for an exit is actuall
, where the syria military is now firing scud missiles at rebel forces in the north, almost thumbing its nose a little bit at the world community here. jim joins me now. it's as if essentially they've seen the line the world is drawing when it comes to chemical weapons and feel they can do almost anything else. >> u.s. officials said this is a clear sign the assad regime in damascus is becoming ever more desperate. this is the first time in a two-year war that the syrian military has used...
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you should also know while syria admitted to gas, officials denied the new report and said they would never be used against syrians. fear can and has and likely will continue to drive military decisions here and aboard even in the absence of willful fear mongering. want to find out what my guests think we should know for the week coming up. back at the table, nora flanders from grip tv.org. mike peska from national public radio. near a tan den, the center for american progress. mike in. >> we know that the university of tennessee fired its football coach derek dooley. don't worry about him. he's getting paid $102,000 a month for the next four years. don't worry, his $5 million buyout means he'll still be the highest paid employee of the state until they hire a new coach. the last coach of tennessee was lane kiffin who jumped schools. this would be in the minds of the volunteers. the coach before him was phil fulmer who was being paid $120,000. those payments end this month. he was being paid that since 2008. they had to fire phil fulmer so quickly only because he won a national champi
you should also know while syria admitted to gas, officials denied the new report and said they would never be used against syrians. fear can and has and likely will continue to drive military decisions here and aboard even in the absence of willful fear mongering. want to find out what my guests think we should know for the week coming up. back at the table, nora flanders from grip tv.org. mike peska from national public radio. near a tan den, the center for american progress. mike in....
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. >>> into syria, violence spilled over the border leaving 17 people dead. richard engel reports syrians are struggling to deal with the blood shet. >> reporter: parts of syria that are controlled by the rebels, there is no talk at all to finding a peaceful solution. the trips and meetings of hillary clinton with the u.n. and her russian counterpart, there's no hope for a diplomatic solution. instead what the people talk about are the suffering of the people. this house was bombed by mistake. the people who lived here lived next to a rebel commander. now they're homeless. there is also tremendous economic difficulties here. the syrian currency is worth about half of what it was worth when the war began. a loaf of bread costs 20 times what it did just a few months ago. but despite all of this the rebels are making advances. they say they hope to soon control the city of aleppo, the country's commercial capital. after that, damascus. richard engel, nfc news. >>> this morning latin music fans around the world are lourng the death of jenny rivera. the 43-year-ol
. >>> into syria, violence spilled over the border leaving 17 people dead. richard engel reports syrians are struggling to deal with the blood shet. >> reporter: parts of syria that are controlled by the rebels, there is no talk at all to finding a peaceful solution. the trips and meetings of hillary clinton with the u.n. and her russian counterpart, there's no hope for a diplomatic solution. instead what the people talk about are the suffering of the people. this house was...
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. >>> now to the ongoing crisis in syria. the civil war now spilling over the border into lebanon where at least 17 people were killed in recent clashes between supporters and opponents of president assad. this as syrian rebels continue to make advances continuing much of the countryside and the open road. richard engel amazingly made his way inside syria and filed this report just outside of the nation's largest city, aleppo. >> reporter: as this conflict drags on the people are suffering, but also showing a tremendous amount of resilience. this house was bombed by mistake. the people who lived here lived next to a rebel commander. now they're homeless. aside from the damage, and there is extensive damage in this part of syria just on the outskirts of the city of aleppo, there are also tremendous economic difficulties. the syrian currency is now worth about half of what it was worth before this war started. a loaf of bread costs 20 times more than it did just a few months ago. fuel is in very short supply, and if you can fin
. >>> now to the ongoing crisis in syria. the civil war now spilling over the border into lebanon where at least 17 people were killed in recent clashes between supporters and opponents of president assad. this as syrian rebels continue to make advances continuing much of the countryside and the open road. richard engel amazingly made his way inside syria and filed this report just outside of the nation's largest city, aleppo. >> reporter: as this conflict drags on the people are...
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syria looks -- syria would be so much worse. you saw the break-up of iraq after the united states invasion in 2003. syria would be that times 10. and there's a lot of worry about what are you going to do with that? you have a worry about the slaughter of the allies in the mountains. you have to worry about just this whole break-up and who would govern this region that is so, so -- this country that is so critical for the whole region. but i do think, though, that chemical weapons would be sort of -- that -- i think for the obama administration, that's a line that they would have trouble defending their passivity so far if assad crossed. that's a hard one. it's hard for me to imagine them not doing anything. >> but given that they haven't really done very much over the past 21 months, and they haven't done very much at all, it's not implausible that they would not do the declarative thing of invading or stopping the use of chemical weapons. it's very little solace that now they are being bombed with chemical weapons, president ob
syria looks -- syria would be so much worse. you saw the break-up of iraq after the united states invasion in 2003. syria would be that times 10. and there's a lot of worry about what are you going to do with that? you have a worry about the slaughter of the allies in the mountains. you have to worry about just this whole break-up and who would govern this region that is so, so -- this country that is so critical for the whole region. but i do think, though, that chemical weapons would be sort...
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that this is a red line syria should not cross? >> the noose is tightening. the russians understand the arc on assad is moving south quickly. the turks have finally requested at least defensive patriot batteries, probably patriot batteries designed to deal with missiles rather than aircraft. should they be anti-aircraft patriots you could see an offensive capacity and capability. the rebels in syria are gaining force, maybe a little more coherens to their opposition and against the backdrop of all of this you have another -- yet another report of the prospects of agents being mixed with respect to chemical weapons capacity. i think this is the red line. it's a nightmarish scenario because it would force some sort of military intervention should these chemical weapons and their deployed either artillery shells or cones, the syrians have hundreds, sarin gas, maybe various nerve agents. the united states or nato would have to intercede eater from the air to de -- eater from the air to destroy these or special forces operations or wors
that this is a red line syria should not cross? >> the noose is tightening. the russians understand the arc on assad is moving south quickly. the turks have finally requested at least defensive patriot batteries, probably patriot batteries designed to deal with missiles rather than aircraft. should they be anti-aircraft patriots you could see an offensive capacity and capability. the rebels in syria are gaining force, maybe a little more coherens to their opposition and against the...
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in the middle east the situation in syria turns from serious to scary. concerns over chemical weapons has secretary clinton conferring with her russian counterpart today to try to avoid deadly developments. >>> an nbc news exclusive, afghanistan's president hamid karzai talks about his country's future and ongoing insecurity and blames the taliban of course. guess who else? nato and the united states. good morning from washington. it's thursday, december 6th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. today's fiscal cliff photo op of the day is going to be in suburban northern virginia when the president will remind the public yet again that without a budget deal taxes will go up on 100% of americans at the end of the year. he'll visit the home of a middle class family who shared their story through the white house's hash tag my 2k social media campaign. >>> with talks and a public stalemate on wednesday the president called speaker boehner their first conversation of the week. the two sides agree
in the middle east the situation in syria turns from serious to scary. concerns over chemical weapons has secretary clinton conferring with her russian counterpart today to try to avoid deadly developments. >>> an nbc news exclusive, afghanistan's president hamid karzai talks about his country's future and ongoing insecurity and blames the taliban of course. guess who else? nato and the united states. good morning from washington. it's thursday, december 6th, 2012. this is "the...
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even russia, syria's most powerful ally, is alarmed. their foreign minister met yesterday with secretary clinton, discussing the possibility of a syria without assad in power. this morning, rebels have declared damascus's airport a military target, warning civilians and airlines not to approach it. >>> and in egypt, tanks and barbed wire barricades returned to the streets of cairo as deadly protests raged outside the presidential palace. egyptian president mohamed morsi is calling for a national dialogue but is resolute about his controversial constitution. nbc's ayman mohyeldin is joining us live from cairo monitoring the situation. let's start with egypt. how much more trouble is morsi in there? >> reporter: well, he's definitely politically isolated because all of egypt's major political factions have really come out against him for both the constitutional decree that gave him absolute powers nearly two weeks ago and kicked off all of these protests, but more importantly, they're very upset with him that he's trying to ram home this
even russia, syria's most powerful ally, is alarmed. their foreign minister met yesterday with secretary clinton, discussing the possibility of a syria without assad in power. this morning, rebels have declared damascus's airport a military target, warning civilians and airlines not to approach it. >>> and in egypt, tanks and barbed wire barricades returned to the streets of cairo as deadly protests raged outside the presidential palace. egyptian president mohamed morsi is calling for...
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and richard engel's dramatic escape from captivity in syria in his own words. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make yr mark with ink from chase. >>> have you joined the "politicsnation" conversation on facebook yet? we hope you will. this photo of a newtown, connecticut, student smiling on his way back to school was inspiring a lot of folks today. mary says this shows how brave they are and how loved and secure they feel. good job, parents and community. buddy says that's why we have to provide a world that keeps them safe. we'll have more on what's being done to help keep them safe coming up next. but first we wanted to hear what you think on this issue or anything else. please head over to facebook and search "politicsnation" and like us to join the conversation that k
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i would say -- i mean i think the thing i'm most struck by is syria. it just seems to me, you have the -- what looks likes the start of assad preparing the possibility of using chemical weapons as nbc reported yesterday. what do we do? what can we do? senator clinton -- secretary clinton meeting with russia, what can we do and what's the next step if they don't listen. >> it's a complex world the president is going to lead in. >> can i enter, you cover these issues all the time and did a lead story on nightly news on this topic. the question fors the president is ultimately what do you do when your foreign policy has been premised on bringing american troops home, at a time when american power and influence is needed particularly in the middle east, but there are no easy answers. this i think is what sort of calls out for an obama doctrine in a second term. he doesn't seem to have one at the moment which is a big issue. >> and doesn't have a foreign policy team yet. he's still wrestling with those decisions. more on that to come. david gregory, thank y
i would say -- i mean i think the thing i'm most struck by is syria. it just seems to me, you have the -- what looks likes the start of assad preparing the possibility of using chemical weapons as nbc reported yesterday. what do we do? what can we do? senator clinton -- secretary clinton meeting with russia, what can we do and what's the next step if they don't listen. >> it's a complex world the president is going to lead in. >> can i enter, you cover these issues all the time and...
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also, the international consensus is growing that syria's president's days are numbered. russia now joining in. could stronger laws have prevented that gun violence in oregon? we'll talk to brady campaign president dan gross. andrea mitchell reports is next right here. gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who like more cash. what's in your wallet? but some things never get old... marie callender's dutch apple pie with fresh fuji apples and a crust made from scratch... it makes home at the holidays even sweeter. marie callender's. it's time to savor. we create easy-to-use, powerful trading tools for all. look at these streaming charts! they're totally customizable and they let yo
also, the international consensus is growing that syria's president's days are numbered. russia now joining in. could stronger laws have prevented that gun violence in oregon? we'll talk to brady campaign president dan gross. andrea mitchell reports is next right here. gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you...
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. >>> syria on the bring. secretary of state hillary clinton holds emergency talks with russia as u.s. officials confirm reports that the syrian military is prepared to launch chemical weapons against its own people. >> we've made it very clear what our position is with respect to chemical weapons and i think we will discuss that and many other aspects. >> the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching very closely. and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences. >> plus, sharp criticism from afghan president karzai. the exclusive nbc interview. why he says the u.s. is partly to blame for the growing instability in his country. >>> and the duchess of cambridge leaves the hospital after being treated for acute morning sickness. her royal father-in-law couldn't be happier. >> i'm not a radio station? >> grandfather, that's splendid. that's great she's getting better. >> good day, i'm chris cillizza in for andrea mitchell live in washington. behind the bluster
. >>> syria on the bring. secretary of state hillary clinton holds emergency talks with russia as u.s. officials confirm reports that the syrian military is prepared to launch chemical weapons against its own people. >> we've made it very clear what our position is with respect to chemical weapons and i think we will discuss that and many other aspects. >> the whole world is watching. the whole world is watching very closely. and the president of the united states has made...
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. >> meantime let's talk about syria. the civil war there spilled over to lebanon where at least 17 people were killed in recent clashes. nbc news reported president assad is getting chemical weapons ready to use on his people. of course, they've denied it. where do you put the threat level? >> well, i think the threat level is certainly increasing. you know, we obviously don't have access to those intelligence reports. but you've heard lots of signs of alarm from u.s. officials that there are indications of these chemical weapons are being prepared for use. when you combine that with the signs that maybe assad's forces are in a little bit more danger from the rebels than they were before, you might think that perhaps the regime is becoming desperate enough to use these chemical weapons. that said, chris, i do think it would be near suicidal for the regime to do so. so far the international community has stayed out. i don't think the united states wants to get involved. but this sort of step could almost force the united
. >> meantime let's talk about syria. the civil war there spilled over to lebanon where at least 17 people were killed in recent clashes. nbc news reported president assad is getting chemical weapons ready to use on his people. of course, they've denied it. where do you put the threat level? >> well, i think the threat level is certainly increasing. you know, we obviously don't have access to those intelligence reports. but you've heard lots of signs of alarm from u.s. officials...
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. >>> there are alarming new developments involving the crisis in syria. pentagon sources tell nbc news there is specific intelligence suggesting the syrian government has loaded sarin gas, a deadly nerve agent, into aerial bombs and is awaiting command from president assad for its use. it comes as the fighting grows more intense and the rebels continue to advance into the capital city of damascus. yesterday secretary of state hillary clinton repeated her warning that the u.s. is ready to take swift action. >> our concerns are that increasingly desperate assad regime might turn to chemical weapons or might lose control of them to one of the many groups that are now operating within syria. we have sent an unmistakable message that this would cross a red line. and those responsible would be held to account. >> u.s. officials stress the chemical bonds remain in storage depots and president assad has not issued any warning to use them. egypt is going into political turmoil after intense clashes on the doorstep of the presidential palace. it's the largest confr
. >>> there are alarming new developments involving the crisis in syria. pentagon sources tell nbc news there is specific intelligence suggesting the syrian government has loaded sarin gas, a deadly nerve agent, into aerial bombs and is awaiting command from president assad for its use. it comes as the fighting grows more intense and the rebels continue to advance into the capital city of damascus. yesterday secretary of state hillary clinton repeated her warning that the u.s. is ready...
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are these individuals from syria or is this conflict attracting militants from overseas? >> reporter: according to western intelligence officials, according to syrians and personally speaking from individuals i have spoken to over the course of covering this conflict, it is definitely attracting people from the region and overseas. i personally have met with rebel fighters that have come from libya, even some from egypt who have wanted to go to syria to fight. they see this as a larger ideological conflict. the government is a staunchly secular one. they believe syria is engaged in what they consider a jihad or a holy war, and they're using that to rally muslims from all around the world to come and join the fight. western intelligence sources and others have reported on the participation of fighters from the caucuses, central asia, as well as from iraq and other neighboring countries. there's no doubt it is galvanizing many fighters to come and join what they say is a religious fight against secularism. >> we've heard talk of an increasingly desperate syrian government c
are these individuals from syria or is this conflict attracting militants from overseas? >> reporter: according to western intelligence officials, according to syrians and personally speaking from individuals i have spoken to over the course of covering this conflict, it is definitely attracting people from the region and overseas. i personally have met with rebel fighters that have come from libya, even some from egypt who have wanted to go to syria to fight. they see this as a larger...
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and that was happening every day. >> richard and his team were not harmed and left syria on tuesday. he'll share more of his story on the "today" show. >>> over on wall street, the dow gained 59 points yesterday. the s&p up seven and the nasdaq added six. the nikkei fell 99 while the hang seng dropped 153. >>> today could be a tense day for markets. stock futures fell sharply thursday evening after house speaker john boehner said he failed to mount support for his plan b bill. intercontinental xarchlg is buying the new york stock exchange for $8.2 billion sent both companies soaring yesterday. research in motion tumbled more than 10% after reporting its first ever decline in subscribers. >>> peter madoff, the brother of jailed ponzi skeeper bernie madoff, will serve ten years in prison. peter madoff still says he's innocent. >>> facebook is testing a new way to make some money. charging users $1 to send an internal e-mail message to someone who is not on their friend list. forget the fiscal crisis. come january 1st there's a possibility that milk prices could rise to as much as $6 to
and that was happening every day. >> richard and his team were not harmed and left syria on tuesday. he'll share more of his story on the "today" show. >>> over on wall street, the dow gained 59 points yesterday. the s&p up seven and the nasdaq added six. the nikkei fell 99 while the hang seng dropped 153. >>> today could be a tense day for markets. stock futures fell sharply thursday evening after house speaker john boehner said he failed to mount support...
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. >> if you want to harm rebels in libya or syria, susan rice. >> since you've been covering this so closely, take us through the evolution because president obama and the white house were so defiant. and remember that one press conference where he came out very sternly talking about how much he admired ambassador rice. how did we get to yesterday? was this all from susan rice, or was there a little nudge from the white house as well? >> well, it's unclear as to whether there was a nudge, but certainly she was reading the tea leaves. and it was pretty clear for the last two weeks that the president was not as forceful as he was on that day, november 14th. when john mccain had said very bluntly on the hill, she is not going to get confirmed, and the president then had his first news conference after being re-elected and just came out so strongly, dramatically and emphatically, he was angry, and they're still angry in the white house about the way mccain and company, they think ganged up on her. i was also told that he might not have stuck with her as long as he did but for mccain. he
. >> if you want to harm rebels in libya or syria, susan rice. >> since you've been covering this so closely, take us through the evolution because president obama and the white house were so defiant. and remember that one press conference where he came out very sternly talking about how much he admired ambassador rice. how did we get to yesterday? was this all from susan rice, or was there a little nudge from the white house as well? >> well, it's unclear as to whether there...
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syria has not signed a chemical weapons convention. they have not, however, moved to use these weapons but they are, according to what we know from the reporting, they are beginning to move these out of storage and the question is, what options do we have and right now the primary option is to ensure that the message is clear to assad and those around him that he cannot use these weapons in any form whatsoever and it seems to have heightened international diplomatic activity, particularly with russia in terms of getting that message out that that's a red line that can't be passed. >> how essential is russia being involved? >> russia is key. russia has been backing assad diplomatically at the u.n. and has deep ties into assad's regime. if they begin to walk away from syria and there appear to be signals that they are distancing themselves, that will put pressure on those around assad to make sure that they do not take assad's lead in potentially using these weapons and helpses move towards the resolution of this. >> you have a ground st
syria has not signed a chemical weapons convention. they have not, however, moved to use these weapons but they are, according to what we know from the reporting, they are beginning to move these out of storage and the question is, what options do we have and right now the primary option is to ensure that the message is clear to assad and those around him that he cannot use these weapons in any form whatsoever and it seems to have heightened international diplomatic activity, particularly with...
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pentagon sources tell nbc news that syria is preparing chemical weapons for the possible use against the military people in the form of aerial bombs. jim miklaszewski reports. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military loaded the precursor chemicals for sarn nerve gas into aerial bombs. that could be dropped from dozens of syrian fighter bombers. this week u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity at chemical weapons sites like this one. while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still be mixed together to create the deadly sarin gas. the development shook the world. president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton issued strong warnings to syria's president assad that there would be serious consequences if he used chemical weapons. >> it's the point of no return. they're going to lose any sort of backing that they had from the chinese and russians in terms of blocking the u.n. vote. and it's my
pentagon sources tell nbc news that syria is preparing chemical weapons for the possible use against the military people in the form of aerial bombs. jim miklaszewski reports. >> reporter: as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned increasingly desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military loaded the precursor chemicals for sarn nerve gas into aerial bombs. that could be dropped from dozens of syrian fighter...
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there's certainly risks where we are with respect to syria. i would not close the door completely to some kind of an agreement whereby president assad could move to another country and the reason i say that is, that the dangers of an imploding syria, of the complete implosion of the state, are really serious and contrary to the national security interests of the united states. it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly. the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed and so i do not want to lock myself into nor do i think our nation should lock ourselves into, a complete refusal to create the dynamic where we can avoid that kind of death and destruction and where we will not serve our greater national security interests. and therefore, i want to see us push rapidly towards the negotiation. i think it can happen. i also believe that assad's regime is in its final months. i don't know if it will be three or six. i can't it tell you the numbe
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this is the gate, the crossing between turkey and syria. and we crossed through bab al hawa, we were heading into this area in the center to meet with a rebel commander. and we were traveling with well-known people, it was set up. the rebel actually came to the border to get us, that is how comfortable people felt moving in this area. we were going to meet this rebel commander, he was going to show us his area, he said i'll come and pick you up. he came, picked us up, hello, hello, then we drive off. just a few minutes after leaving the border crossing, traveling with the rebel commander and one of his men and our whole team we got ambushed. and gunmen came from the side of the road, surrounded our car, wearing ski masks, they had a truck waiting for us. and threw us in the back of the truck, boom, the doors close. and they drive off. >> large number of people, they were lying in wait. it seems like it was a well-coordinated. >> they were ambushed, these were government people, they were -- the rebel commander thought maybe these were other
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gets involved in syria, it won't transform u.s. policy in the middle east and change the dynamics of everything in washington. trust us on this including the fiscal cliff. >>> well, driving a hard bargain, president obama heads to the motor city and in the middle of a union fight. i have a former governor of michigan here. plus, we'll talk fiscal cliff and debt ceiling with him. plus, one hatch of simpson-bowles. the erskine bowles half. the less dancing of the duo. why former chief of staff is growing more optimistic we'll be able to get a deal before the cliff dive. by the way, will he take a job in president obama's cabinet? i'll have that answer straight ahead. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule today. you can see it's michigan with the lunch time remarks. back to the white house before 5:00. [ male announcer ] when ziggy the cat appeared at their door, he opened up jake's very private world. at first, jake's family thought they saved ziggy, but his connection with jake has been a lifesaver. for a love this strong,
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then you're in syria. >> and what goes through your mind? you're in syria. that's not a place a lot of people want to be right now. >> look, i spent a lot of my time pretty scared, frankly, reporting in the case of syria i was in an area that was rebel -- clearly rebel controlled. and so it wasn't as risky as it sounds. and people always look at me, my job and think oh, boy how dangerous. meanwhile, i always think of those photographers and camera crews who are out there. i mean when they hear gunfire their rule is to immediately rush toward the gunfire. and my basic rule of traveling in war zones you never accept a ride from a photographer because then when they hear the gunfire they head for it. >> don't be going there. it was interesting because you wrote about a man who is a pro-western businessman who los his son to sniper fire. he dead despite his leanings being pro-western, he actually welcomes all of the rebels whoever they may be. you know what i'm implying there. because of western indifference. is that a pervasive feeling in syria? >> you know, i'
then you're in syria. >> and what goes through your mind? you're in syria. that's not a place a lot of people want to be right now. >> look, i spent a lot of my time pretty scared, frankly, reporting in the case of syria i was in an area that was rebel -- clearly rebel controlled. and so it wasn't as risky as it sounds. and people always look at me, my job and think oh, boy how dangerous. meanwhile, i always think of those photographers and camera crews who are out there. i mean...
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richard engel has the latest from inside syria. >> parts of syria controlled by the rebels, there's no talk of the diplomatic efforts. the trips and leadings of hillary clinton with the u.n. and her russian counter part, there's no hope here for a diplomatic solution. instead, what people talk about is the suffering of the people. the people are showing tremendous resilience. this house was bombed by mistake. the people that live here live next to a rebel commander. now, they are homeless. there's tremendous economic difficulties here. the syrian currency is worth half of what it was worst when the war began. a loaf of bread cost 20 times what it did months ago. the rebels are making advances. they hope to soon control the city, the commercial capital. after that, damascus. richard engel, nbc news. >> we are also hearing new reaction off capitol hill. it's the supreme court's decision to take up two challenges to same-sex marriage. regardless of public opinion, it belongs to the nation's highest court. >> prior to this election, every vote has been and made it through a legislature, no
richard engel has the latest from inside syria. >> parts of syria controlled by the rebels, there's no talk of the diplomatic efforts. the trips and leadings of hillary clinton with the u.n. and her russian counter part, there's no hope here for a diplomatic solution. instead, what people talk about is the suffering of the people. the people are showing tremendous resilience. this house was bombed by mistake. the people that live here live next to a rebel commander. now, they are...
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officials tell nbc news that syria's government has ordered the chemical sites to be, quote, prepared. sparking fears that they could be getting ready to mix a deadly nerve gas. so the direct warnings president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton delivered to syria come as that country's ally, russia, signals that the use of chemical weapons is a red line for their own support for syria. joining me now is nbc's chief pentagon correspondent jim jim miklaszewski. a speech that really didn't have anything having to do with what syria, clearly there's intelligence on the ground that has u.s. officials concerned. >> reporter: that's right, chuck. all the latest intelligence indicates that the u.s., nato, and particularly the syrian people are really staring the worst case scenario directly in the face. just about the time rebel forces started to make significant advances in the capital da m damascus, u.s. officials tell nbc news that the assad regime informed its chemical weapons corps to get prepared. and just about that time, u.s. intelligence noticed a flurry of activity around
officials tell nbc news that syria's government has ordered the chemical sites to be, quote, prepared. sparking fears that they could be getting ready to mix a deadly nerve gas. so the direct warnings president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton delivered to syria come as that country's ally, russia, signals that the use of chemical weapons is a red line for their own support for syria. joining me now is nbc's chief pentagon correspondent jim jim miklaszewski. a speech that really...
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engle and his two crew members are now safely out of syria. we'll be right back. new jammin jerk chicken soup has tasty pieces of chicken with rice and beans. hmmm. for giant hunger! thanks mom! see ya! whoaa...oops! mom? i'm ok. grandma? hi sweetie! she operates the head. [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. she operates the head. is bigger than we think ... sometimelike the flu.fer from with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differently than over-the-counter remedies. prescription tamiflu attacks the flu virus at its source. so don't wait. call your doctor right away. tamiflu is prescription medicine for treating the flu in adults and children one year and older whose flu symptoms started within the last two days. before taking tamiflu tell your doctor if you're pregnant, nursing. have serious health conditions, or take other medicines. if you develop an allergic reaction, a severe rash, or signs of unusual behavior, stop taking tamiflu and call
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